To Clarify the following abilities are effected by this change

Bright Wizard

• Rain of Fire

Sorceress

• Pit of Shades

Magus

• Firestorm of Tzeentch

In addition the following existing spells in game already function this way

Engineer

• Napalm Grenade

Magus

• Dissolving Mist

-Adam

I like this particular change, as it should make narrow areas more survivable for the squishiest of classes. We'll have to see if this is the medicine needed for the problem once it hits a testable environment.

Question though - will it be first cast of the GTAoE that determines who gets hit, or will it be determined in another way? I'm not entirely brushed up on how the mechanic works with Dissolving Mist/Napalm Grenade.

hey adam,

thanks for the adjustment.

However you stated risk vrs reward.. thank you using that as the means for balancing.

Being said.. is there any plans to improve the PBAE for both sorc and BW to have a much larger Damage burst. Currently the Sorc/BW PBAE is all risk, and no reward, being that the damage out from both of these spells are indeed minimal. 

Please improve the power of these spells do to the major risk sorcs/bws would have to put themselves into to use properly. (in keeps would be directly near the tanks walls... in open field would be in the middle of the enemy front).

thankyou.

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Timeless wrote:

Question though - will it be first cast of the GTAoE that determines who gets hit, or will it be determined in another way? I'm not entirely brushed up on how the mechanic works with Dissolving Mist/Napalm Grenade.

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Think of the casters in the diagram as

• Red - First Spell Cast
• Blue - Second Spell Cast
• Yello - Third Spell Cast

This means that the first caster will hit his / her maximum number of targets (in this case 9), the second caster will select its targets not already effected until it hits max, or runs out of targets, abd so on.

Also keep in mind if Caster #1 spell ends before Caster 2 or 3 then their spells will hit more targets on the next tic of the spell after the first caster's spell is over

-Adam

This is a nice start, but please, please, please give Real LoS to GTAoE.

The "Camera LoS" is totally ridiculous and open to exploitation.  GTAoE should require Real LoS from the Caster to the spot on the ground they are Targeting. 

This is a step in the right direction however this doesn't change the fact that a single rain of fire can hit for 1k+, which doesn't solve the problem of melee being instantly owned.

So any news on possible resist cap changes to further change the AoE problem? Maybe 60% soft cap????? 50%???

 How does this work on ramps, where there is an elevation difference?  Does anyone in the reticle, even if it is sloped down the ramp, still get affected by a single instance?

That sure is a great start. This was a major game breaking issue in fort defenses and such. I know because I play on Volkmar, a broken server where order sacks IC multiple times per day and destro ever only took 1 fort since 1.2, and that was one of the issues we faced.

The damage of RoF and the wildfire tactic needs to be fixed as well. Currently I am getting crit by a RoF dot for about 1500. That is a spell which can be cast from 80ft behind a rock, with a 30ft radius with 10 ticks and is up every other 10 seconds. With the death zone, nobody even makes it to the BWs (of course considering we can see them because they are generally spamming this from another building, room, floor etc).

Every single BW on my server has respecced AoE because of 1.2. We are hoping these changes will put this madness (for us melee dps) to an end.

Please tell me this is not the only AoE change that's in the works. It will not be sufficient for us. A good step though...

it wont be based on elevation difference. it will be based on who is being effected.

Guys, this is a good starting point to balance out the spell. The Caster is still going to be doing strong damage on the spell. However, the players will only be affected by 1 RoF/ PoSat a time(in theory). You wont have 2 stacking RoF/PoS effecting you at the same time.

Think of it more like this...

caster 1 cast RoF, 4 seconds into the spell, Caster 2 Cast RoF.. The enemy players will only take damage as if they are just standing in 1 RoF for 12 seconds.. instead of taking damage for standing in 2 RoFs.

If both casters cast it at the same exact spot at the same exact time.. you will only take damage from 1 RoF for 8 seconds.

if 12 Casters cast it at the same exact spot and at the same exact time.. you will only take damage from 1 RoF for 8 seconds.

with this change, they really need to improve the PBAE spells on both sorc and BW. currently they are highrisk, low reward.

Well this is a good start. Hope more good news in the future like resist caps and such.....

Maybe change WP curse dispell and grp heals in general for both order and destro.

Completely agreed. It was kind of stupid when a party of 8 could kill like 4 warbands >.>

Good job dev team for actually listening and paying attention to your community.

-Hraf

This design change is kind of fail.  It seems so much more simple to just nerf the damage aoe does and/or raise the resist cap.  IMO for all classes it should be a choice of...do a lot of single target damage or mediocre aoe damage.  Attack A (single target) hits target for 600 dmg, Attack B (aoe) hits for 150 dmg to multiple targets.

The way this fix seems to turn out is if an Engi, a BW, and a Slayer are spamming aoe on the same spot it means 2 of them in reality are doing nothing but burning AP, lawl.  But I guess they deserve it for being mindless aoe spammers, so I dunno.

EDIT: I didn't realize it was only for the same spell stacking.  But still seems like a weird fix, a lot of people are going to be standing around draining their AP for no reason and RoF will still tick for 1k+ plus.

I resubbed because it seemed like the BW actually had a use again... after this I might as well unsub due to taking it in the shorts, again.  They won't fix single target dmg so that it's viable, they won't change KB and Root to something useful like a snare so we can actually have a minute chance of escaping the melee horde.  All that was really left was AoE builds for defending keeps. 

They should be removing chokepoints so that AoE can't be stacked just in one place.  Instead they nerf the crap out of the so called "glass cannons" when in reality they already were paper pea shooters.  Not one game has ever gotten the "Wizard/Mage" class right.  All they do is nerf nerf nerf.