Wow, so just about every forum post seems to have some one saying, "I'm unsubing" or some derivitive. 

This game can't afford to lose any more players!  So what is your response to this growing trend?  I remember when Smedley was asked the same question concerning SWG and his reply was something to the effect of "It's Star Wars, there will always be more players." 

So, Mythic what's your response to that?  What are you going to do with the growing number of people unsubscribing?  More empty promises?  More hurry up and wait?  Your subscribers are wanting change and you tell us that we are not even being looked at in the up and coming months?  This game has been out since September 18, 2008.  For the love of cake you have to give us at least something besides a slight shrug of the shoulders and you saying, "Now that we've told you that we aren't doing something about your problems it's okay now."

Doomrot, Mythic has bigger fish to fry than the Marauder/ WL changes at the moment.  AoE is broken, completely ruining their game.  T4 End game is also not working as intended, again it is a game breaker.  Server performance hasn't been able to live up to the Massive part of MMO, again game breaking.

These issues are greater than Marauder issues and are the focus of upcomming changes to stop the bleeding. 

Add to it, the departure of Mark Jacobs, meaning, Mythic has a new head leading the ship with a new list of priorites as HE see's it (or she). 

Time, sadly, will tell.  This doesn't make ammends for Mythic telling us, we get love next patch over and over again, but I simply point this out as a way to restate the obvious.

Edit:  Actually with the AoE changes comming, I think every class will have to be re evaluated for effectiveness in end game PvP, because frankly, diminish the power of our Monstrocity line and 80% + of all Marauders are going to be wondering what tree to play to be worth anything at all.

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Doomrot wrote:
That may be true but, the AM/SHM career change is much more needed than the MRD/WL? 

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I would say defintely not, AM/SHM at least can fulfill thiere intended role to heal.  boohoo they want to dps too? hey guess what marauders want to be able to DPS so we can fulfill our role as a class.  Mythic works in the twilight zone man. I'd post on my marauder but he is in timeout for speaking the truth. 

The end game is just rubbish, fixing classes wont help terribad end game. Grats to mythic, you got that one right. +1

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Cushgod wrote:

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Doomrot wrote:
That may be true but, the AM/SHM career change is much more needed than the MRD/WL? 

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I would say defintely not, AM/SHM at least can fulfill thiere intended role to heal.  boohoo they want to dps too? hey guess what marauders want to be able to DPS so we can fulfill our role as a class.  Mythic works in the twilight zone man. I'd post on my marauder but he is in timeout for speaking the truth. 

 

The end game is just rubbish, fixing classes wont help terribad end game. Grats to mythic, you got that one right. +1

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Exactly what my point is about.  I find it absolutely mind boggling that they don't have time for us yet have time for AM/SHMs.  

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dethcomith wrote:
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You are why people like me don't see more developer-community interaction.

Unproductive negativity is unecessary and undesired.

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Doomrot wrote:
That may be true but, the AM/SHM career change is much more needed than the MRD/WL? 

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These changes are largely finished, so it makes sense to finish off the AM/Shm changes before moving on to a different area of focus.

I agree completely, and infact talk daily with a friend, that Marauders and White Lions need their quality time, but I will tell you what I tell everyone else: If you are not enjoying the class as-is, then reroll, or unsubscribe until the day comes when your class is addressed.

Its not a concern of "which class needs the most work," but rather a scheduling issue. I believe it has been said that the Marauder and White Lion are scheduled to be the next class pairing to be focused on, but until they finish the current work on the AM and Shaman, they will not be able to focus on the WL and Marauder.

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NargofWoV wrote:
...Another way to look at the troubles at Mythic... There hasn't been a single dev or community team post on these boards in three days.

Message Edited by NargofWoV on 06-30-2009 12:11 PM

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We're mostly out of the office on vacation this week.

 

We have some folks, such as myself and James checking the boards and responding as well as an emergency team available, but for the most part it's a few days off for folks.

 

We'll be back at it on Monday.

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Have a great Fourth....you guys deserve a break.

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Unproductive negativity is unecessary and undesired.

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It's what happens when people are constantly ignored.

Many in my guild are doing the same.  They've ended their reccuring subscriptions and are on a semi-vacation from the game.  We're waiting to see if Mythic makes some significant progress before our subs run out.

Time will tell.

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Doomrot wrote:
That may be true but, the AM/SHM career change is much more needed than the MRD/WL? 

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Its not a concern of "which class needs the most work,"

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It's pretty easy to say that as a Warrior Priest.

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Drhammer wrote:

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Doomrot wrote:
That may be true but, the AM/SHM career change is much more needed than the MRD/WL? 

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I agree completely, and infact talk daily with a friend, that Marauders and White Lions need their quality time, but I will tell you what I tell everyone else: If you are not enjoying the class as-is, then reroll, or unsubscribe until the day comes when your class is addressed.

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This thread isn't about my like or dislike of my Marauder, it's about what Mythic as a business is doing to stop it's subscribers from leaving.  I think that I shouldn't have to unsubscribe because obviously there is plenty of time to create new zones, loot, mobs, graphics and animations, sounds, music, even loading screens.  It is my contention that Mythic has had plenty of opportunity to at least address the issue or even open conversation about the issue.  They have done nothing but promise us and promise us.  When asked about it we're told that we are be pushed back.  I think the patience of the MRD/WL community is phenominal but not inifinite and we as paying subscribers deserve something better than a scheduling problem.  If the MRD/WL fix can be pushed, if the C&C patch can be pushed, so could have so many other things that took up time to address this long standing issue.

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dethcomith wrote:
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 They are nonproductive, negative, and make the community look like a bunch of neanderthals.  It's a wonder the devs actually post here at all when everytime they do a mega-wafflestorm of negativity comes spewing out the community.  If you really hate the game that much, leave.

Why would anyone at mythic be allowed to go on vacation, in this their darkest hour? These problems that they have with thier game are exactly the same thing that happened in DAoC. They had massive PBAE and CC problems and they went ahead and released new PVE content instead of trying to fix their game. Why repeat the same mistakes of the past?

Mythic could have at least lied and said, we aren't responding right now because we are working so hard on the game. The wreaks of internal restructuring. Mythic was great at keepnig us in the loop. Now that Mark Jacobs is gone it seems the high ups at EA want to keep Mythic hush hush and just ride this game into the ground until their next MMORPG is released adn they can start all over again.

I have unsubbed my auto monthly payment and will wait and see if I pay on July 15th.  But I dont blame the form/community mods.  They work hard, they communicate what they are allowed to and the issues with this game are not directly their fault in any way.

Decisions were made at the top of this company that have put us where we are today, unhappy, unpopulated and unsubbed, but its not Andys fault or any of the other mods or even dev's.

Enjoy the weekend, and I hope in a month from now we are all killing each other discussing the good old days of how the servers where so messed up before Mythic fixed everything and made this the best game ever!

 If not... I just picked up the "Hello Kitty Island Adventures MMORPG Expansion Pack" and I will play it if I have to.....

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Drhammer wrote:

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dethcomith wrote:
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You are why people like me don't see more developer-community interaction.

 

Unproductive negativity is unecessary and undesired.

Message Edited by Max on 06-30-2009 04:33 PM

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Desperate times, desperate measures. Buddy, your class is OP'd right now specially with AoE detaunt. If you EVER play a marauder you'll see why we're so angry about this class. 

If you're not a marauder, don't bother posting here buddy.

Unsubed as well.  My game time ends on the 17th of July.

Just to much class imbalances (not even mentioned in the producers letter as a priority, this is the #1 thing that ticked me off and pushed me over the edge), bad end game, bad realm balance, just bad everything.   I knew choppas and slayers would make maras obsolete and I was right.  I played DAoC long enough to know the old bait and switch routine with new classes. 

I unsubbed and its set to end on 16th... I will resub though if things are changed as far as population balance on my server... Right now LOTD is in the hands of destro except in the middle of the night when sides have even numbers...

i really don't want to go thru what i already went thru on hochland...

Mythic introduced PVE content to try to attract players from WoW, instead of fixing the balancing and server issues crucial for PVP.

This resulted in their failure in attracting new players due to their subpar PVE content and alienation and subsequent cancellation of subscription by their existing players due the to poor servers and balance.

Whoever is in charged of the strategic direction of Warhammer needs to be fired IMO. Firstly, he failed to realise War's appeal and competitive advantage, and instead took War off on a tangent that benefited no one in the end except War's competitors.

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vanyel wrote:

Mythic introduced PVE content to try to attract players from WoW, instead of fixing the balancing and server issues crucial for PVP.

 

This resulted in their failure in attracting new players due to their subpar PVE content and alienation and subsequent cancellation of subscription by their existing players due the to poor servers and balance.

 

Whoever is in charged of the strategic direction of Warhammer needs to be fired IMO. Firstly, he failed to realise War's appeal and competitive advantage, and instead took War off on a tangent that benefited no one in the end except War's competitors.

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^---This, the only thing is i think the person that WAS in charge of this left on the 23rd. So maybe we'll see something happening soon.