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1.   Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:10 PM
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From The Herald
Continuing our three-part Armor Set Redesign article series, we now bring you the next eight careers. As with the first article, below you will find before and after shots for eight careers (four Order and four Destruction) in their Sentinel, Conqueror, Darkpromise, and Invader armor set.

Please remember that this is still a work in progress, and the set dye colors are not applied yet, but you should be able to get a good idea of how each set has changed.

Read the Full Article @ The Herald and consider the following:

 

What do you think of the changes? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Let us know, and please be as detailed as possible!

 

As always please remember to keep discussions constructive, civil and on-topic, thank you!

 
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2.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:18 PM
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I love the arm thing you added to the sentinel and invader sets for the shaman but the other arm with no sleeve looks kind of lame. Like the changes overall for all the sets though, specially Marauder.
 
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3.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:21 PM
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Like the new Marauder Invader Helm. Was kind of hoping we'd get a new Shoulder graphic, but at least it's no longer the same graphic as Ruin. Those are about the only 2 pieces that ever stand out on the Marauder.
 

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4.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 01:32 PM
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I'm not a fan of the archmage changes. from what i thought the armor redesign was supposed to be, was upgrade the looks of armor, and what i see here is a downgrade in sentinel to i'm not sure what previous set, and conqueror's robes down to the annihilator robes.  As for the helms, ithough they would make them look a bit cooler, yet with the invader helm, they took the coolest helm design in the game, and made it look like the warlord helm, which is not an upgrade in look.  The invader helm used to be sleek and sexy, but with this change, the AM's will continue to not show their helmets.  (Being from Iron Rock, i will almost certainly never have a chance to get the warlord helmet, no matter what it looks like.)I'm glad to see the braces have major vairations in their looks but dissapointed that all the belts have the same basic shape with differant art on them, at least one of them could have stayed the thin belt of archmage's past.  One final note for the conqueror Shoulders, they look too much like something u might see on a sword master.
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5.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:35 PM
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Tremendous! Keep up the great work! Wow!

 

IMHO - They really exude & reflect the artwork of the Warhammer universe, and help to enhance the character "prestige" when running around in these.

 

I look forward to working towards these sets when I reach 40 :smileyhappy:

 

(p.s. - can't wait to see the Warrior Priest sets)


 


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6.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:36 PM
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I really like the changes to the WH sets, especially the DP one, it's really badass.

I didn't like how the boots and shoulders use to look... now atleast we have options.

 
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7.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:38 PM
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The new Marauder stuff is nice but..

 

Chosen/Marauder look very mismatched, you didn't make any new armor art for chosen you just added very old set art as some pieces, nothing really matches as a whole, Sentinel being changed really doesn't make much sense..

 

Sentinel's Shoulders don't match, they are /ok/ but really should go back to normal, and the gloves are identical to Annihilator. Old Sentinel was fine, very twisting and cool looking with lots of details.

 

Conqueror is cool but the chestpiece/gloves/boots are identical to T4 default gear, no way to tell the difference. Would much prefer the Chestpiece keep the model but get a new texture to match the rest, something very plain and "rock" like to match the helmet/shoulders would be awesome. The Boots/Gloves just need to change, reskinned Sentinel would work. Conqeruor should make you look like you've been through hell, the new helmet is awesome and matches the theme of it all and the rest of the armor should be brought up to match it.

 

Darkpromise is an abomination, the shoulders do not match, the chestpiece is a T2 PQ set chestpiece (and an ugly one at that). The Boots are more T4 but only slightly reskinned, would much prefer a reskin of Sentinel Boots. The Shoulders should go back to the old ones. Darkpromise is supposed tobe mutated and twisting and very alive looking, return the old DP shoulders but make them a bit bigger, make the chestpiece very organic and twisting. 

 

Invader is cool, lots of teeth, same problem with boots/gloves, they need to be more fitting, less T4 reskin, and more armor-ish. Make them badass teeth covered beasts as well. It should be very "oh crap look out he's a badass" which it kinda gives off a "that's cool" vibe, not a "RUN IN FEAR!" vibe.

 

Good News: Badass Belts

Bad News: You traded the Sentinel Boots/Gloves for Annihilator on all the sets. There are reskins on them but as a whole they look very bleh.


 

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8.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 01:42 PM
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Few critiques.

 

Why in the blazes would you completely remove the Chosen Conqueror helm? It's hands down the best looking Chosen helm in the game. The same goes for the Archmage Invader hat and the Witch Hunters Conqueror shoulders.

 

The Archmages Darkpromise hat is an abomination and really needs to be utterly destroyed along with the Archmage Annihilator and the new Invader hats.

 

The new Witch Hunter RvR sets look really dull and boring when compared to the new PvE sets

 

Other than those few issues everything looks good. I'm especially pleased with the new White Lion kilts and shoulders along with the Knight of the Blazing Sun actually having different models for their armor and Witch Elves wearing less and less as they get better stuff.

 

Edit: Also, while I applaud the removal of those crappy Chosen boots that make me look like I'm wearing some kids overstuffed dinosaur themed slippers, did you really have to replace them with the same foldover crap I was wearing in T2 combined with the supremely disappointing beak kneepands off the current Annihilator gear?

Message Edited by Attic_Lion on 09-25-2009 02:04 PM

 

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9.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:44 PM
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Attic_Lion wrote:

 ... and Witch Elves wearing less and less as they get better stuff.


This almost made me spit out the soup I'm having for lunch as I was reading over the feedback in this thread, lol. :smileywink:

 
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10.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:46 PM
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Over all it looks good. For the WL invader I would suggest you change the the chest peice below the chainmail. Looks like he's wearing an apron. Maybe split it down the middle.

 

Also the DP/Invader helm are still to close in appearance.

 
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11.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 01:57 PM
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Jess wrote:

Attic_Lion wrote:

 ... and Witch Elves wearing less and less as they get better stuff.


This almost made me spit out the soup I'm having for lunch as I was reading over the feedback in this thread, lol. :smileywink:


The Conq set is to the Invader set as Velma Dinkley is to Megan Fox.


 

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12.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 02:01 PM
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Haha!

 

Oh, by the by Attic, I was looking over the Chosen armor sets, and it looks as if the Conq helm graphic is now the graphic for the Invader set. So, it wasn't removed, just reallocated.

Message Edited by Jess on 09-25-2009 02:03 PM
 
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13.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:05 PM
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Yea the Conq helm got moved to invader.

 

I'm not really happy with the changes sadly.. I'd even go as far as preferring current over that, and that's hard for me given I love all Chosen armor and I'm one that pushed for the repetitive sentinel gear to be changed, but not to reskinned annihilator =(


 

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14.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:07 PM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/Ebonyassassin2/ChosenHelms.jpg

 

I think we need to change out the Chosen collars to be more like their tabletop counterparts, with that sharp triangle of decorated armor coming up over their bottom part of their face, and the collander helmet is always awesome.


 

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15.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:08 PM
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Ah, the head is just tilted off to the side then.

 

My points about the bleeding Archmage KFC bucket and replacing the pointy awesomeness of the Invader hat with the dull crappiness of the Dwarf INF reward hat still stand though.


 

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16.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:12 PM
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I cant adequately critique the new witch elf armor until I see it from some, eahh, other angles.. but so far so good.
 
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17.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 02:14 PM
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I gotta say that I am truly disappointed by the the changes made to all of the armor sets that you have shown today. One that really sticks out to me would have to be the Chosen. His boots for the last three sets looks too similar, his Conqueror chest looks like a green chest, the Darkpromise set looks like a bunch of random sets thrown together. I hope you guys can get your act together or else the few people that are left in this game aren't going to be around much longer(and I'm not only talking about the armor changes).
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18.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:17 PM
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Honestly, overall I am very dissapointed with the changes that you have made this time around... especially with the Chosen.  You downgraded so much stuff its just so pathedic to look at now.  Why did all the boots past Sentinel turn into modified Annihilator boots?  Why is Conqueror wearing a green chest?  Why is the Conqueror helmet so... boring.  The other classes are equally dissapointing and downgraded.
 

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19.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:19 PM
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I like the Conqueror Helmet, its everything else I'm disappointed in.
 

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20.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 02:22 PM
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I'm not too fond of the marauder armor redesign.  My biggest gripes are that conqueror gear is the same design as the green gear you get in level 30's, the new belts don't look as awesome as the old invader and conq belts and the general shuffling around of old designs.  I like the new invader helmet, but the whole design from sent onwards show's lack of progession.  I just resemble a level 30 marauder for the most part and I thought sent was a visual upgrade with more armor, but then the sets onward degraded in visual style which doesn't make sense since you're gaining stronger gear and that isn't very cool.
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21.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 02:22 PM
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Compared to the other helmets, the Conqueror helmet looks like it should be green.  I dont think its epic enough to fit with th others.
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22.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 02:24 PM
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I know there are only a few WEs left playing so you thought it will go unnoticed?

you did absolutely no changes to DP set, you just switched it in your comparison table with conq set.

the new boots is pretty much annihilator boots in different colors. So no, thank you, we don't need this kind of changes.

 

MOD EDIT: You're welcome to provide negative feedback on the topic, but please leave the unnecessary non-constructive comments out of your posts.  Thanks!

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23.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2   [ Edited ] 09-25-2009 02:24 PM
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Marauder

 

Good: Helmets, invader helm looks pretty sick.  Conq helm got replaced by a lvl 30 graphic, ok.glad i dont wear that anymore. 

 

Bad: Shoulders, nothing new, just swapped shoulders around.  So now invader shoulders = sent graphics.  I would have prefered to keep the current shoulder graphics or create a new graphic for invader not just making sent shoulders larger.  Conq shoulders also seem to be missing some gold/metal color border. 

 

Belts:  Invader belt already had a good graphic but it was swapped for a lesser set graphic.  

 

Boots:  Would rather see current boot graphics instead of the new ones, conq and dp boots look like newbie boots.  Really bad. 

 

Chosen

 

Good: Shoulders better scale upward in level, but invader seem rather lackluster. i do not like how small they are compared to other shoulders

 

I somewhat like the helmet changes, but i did like the current invader helm over the proposed one.  

 

Bad:

 

Boots:  Sent & Invader are decent but Conq and Dp look like newbie boots.  

 

 

 

Overall I would rather keep the current set then the proposed.

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24.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:27 PM
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maxf wrote:
wow how fail mythic...

Second..


 

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25.   Re: Armor Set Redesigns - Part 2 09-25-2009 02:31 PM
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The only one I didn't like was the Witch Elf conqueror boots. They are like the current Annihilator boots, which not only are ugly, but can't be painted correctly. Please, keep the old (current) model of the WE Conq boots.

 

 

 

By the way, are there plans to change the armor set stats? The bonuses for invader sets are worse than conqueror sets for many classes (Witch elf included).


 

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