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ltank wrote:
Without me having to make a trial account myself, which servers are trial servers now? I know before it was IR and Gorfang, has anything changed?

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I think that its almost exactly like a regular account in that they can pickany server to create a character on. The only big restriction is the R/RR 10 cap I think.

From FAQ: 

• Endless Trial accounts are restricted to Tier 1 of the Empire versus Chaos pairing. This includes Tier 1 scenarios but does not include access to the Capital Cities or the other racial pairings within the game.
• Endless Trial accounts may receive mail and purchase from the auction house; however, they cannot send mail or create auctions

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Andy wrote:

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Good ideas on this one guys.  Kudos.

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Togiak wrote:
I hope this works out in a positive way. Last night I had a friend make a rank 1 character and try some Scenarios and he just got his butt kicked, bcause everyone else in the SC was rank 11! Needless to say he did not like Warhammer very much after that.

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Most likely everyone else was not rank 11, bolster kicks in for scenarios on all servers. Unless they changed it. Even with bolster though rank 1's wont stand much of a chance, and after a few hours of just playing SC's a person will be rank 11 or close to it.

Hypothetical situation:

Let's say I created a new Mythic Master Account...

Grabbed myself the Endless Trial...

Created a Choppa...

Leveled him to 10...

Mailed him a bunch of twink gear/talismans/potions...

... would I be able to pwn noobs as the ultimate twinked Choppa whenever I wanted?

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Kladiest wrote:

Hypothetical situation:

 

Let's say I created a new Mythic Master Account...

Grabbed myself the Endless Trial...

Created a Choppa...

Leveled him to 10...

Mailed him a bunch of twink gear/talismans/potions...

 

... would I be able to pwn noobs as the ultimate twinked Choppa whenever I wanted?

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They will either quit or upgrade.

But yea, no reason for trial accounts to have access to mail or AH.

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Togiak wrote:
I hope this works out in a positive way. Last night I had a friend make a rank 1 character and try some Scenarios and he just got his butt kicked, bcause everyone else in the SC was rank 11! Needless to say he did not like Warhammer very much after that.

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He expect to own right out of the gate in a true RvR game? 

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DaLeech wrote:
They should expand this. Maybe have it so for $12 or $24 a year access to all pairings T1. For another small ammount access to T2.

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CAREFUL, you're going up the F2P route!

Exactly. As it is, the game isn't worth full monthly fee to me but I WOULD be willing to pay a smaller portion of the monthly fee for the parts of the game I find to be worthwhile.

A dollar or two a month for full T1 even if I have to pay for a full years worth in one chunk? No problem with that. Another $25-$50 or so a year for T2 even if it is limited to level 20 is a pretty good deal as well. Even if I only played rarely there would be no trouble justifying paying that for a full years access.

There are probably quite a few who feel like I do out there, enough to justify the small effort needed to make it happen.

Edit: As my name implies, I'm a former full subscriber who is currently playing T1 on an endless trial account.

So the concept seems like a solid thing.  But there are  a few problems....

1) where the tier1 systems do work, once people actually start paying and find the broken tier4/end game, they will leave like all others have in the past.

2) folks that are actuall paying customers are now getting bombarded with tells in major cities to hit the AH for these trial accounts.

3)  more or less a repeat of 1, end game is broke.  But at least they'll get to see your broken UI, all the lag that is found on your systems, and listen to everyone that are already paying customers complain about why they should just save their money.

and now for the real question.....

Is this really just the sign of the end of the game?  Your now giving away the game for free...or at least one of the few parts of it that works properly.

I resubscribed and the client runs very smooth compared to last time, and I have no crashes at all now. 

I am very impressed with that.

I

 Take your doom and gloom and leave.  I am still loving the game after over a year... and now the endless trial... awesome!!

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Kilaine wrote:

So the concept seems like a solid thing.  But there are  a few problems....

 

1) where the tier1 systems do work, once people actually start paying and find the broken tier4/end game, they will leave like all others have in the past.

 

2) folks that are actuall paying customers are now getting bombarded with tells in major cities to hit the AH for these trial accounts.

 

3)  more or less a repeat of 1, end game is broke.  But at least they'll get to see your broken UI, all the lag that is found on your systems, and listen to everyone that are already paying customers complain about why they should just save their money.

 

and now for the real question.....

 

Is this really just the sign of the end of the game?  Your now giving away the game for free...or at least one of the few parts of it that works properly.

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I'm on the same server as you and I play ALL day (unemployed ) and I have not once been asked to check the AH, I do not have any significant lag (ok, once the other day but it went away after I rebooted my router... so probably on my side), and the people I play with love the new T4 campaign.  The only thing I've seen any complaints about is when destro gets into altdorf more than once in a single day, and even that isn't bad anymore with the new 1 hour timer. 

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downeywu wrote:
endless trial worst idea ever, lvl 10 twinks running around ruining gaming experience FOR PAYING PLAYERS, if you cant afford the game oh well sucks for you. get rid of this horrible idea, before you lose too many people mythic

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Great idea, in theory.  

In practice, I came back for my 10 day characters, only to find that they have been moved to a server I can't access with the infinite trial. This concerns all my order characters, including the one you see here as my avatar (you can see that he is on Ironclaw, a server not open to trial users).

It's nice to say "hey, 10 day people, wanna play some more?", but taking our characters away is a bit mean.

The Ironclaw server is not accessible to any players....it has been shut down.  You need to transfer your characters to a different server using the Account Management system.

Thanks,

Ci-Ci 

The fact that you're allowing this endless trial to continue is great and all, but the fact that it's to level 10 isn't good.  You're allowing players to make godly players in tier 1 and it's not fair to players who are actually trying to test the game.  I heard a rumor that Mythic plans to make the trial cap 12, which would be very ideal for the simple fact that it's not fair for new players to experience ungodly pvp.  How is that a good way for players to get a feel of the game when they can't take down a healer who is twinked with toughness gems and what not.  Other day an AM took out 4 of us me being a marauder, A DoK who was damage dealing, a Zealot healer and a choppa.  I really don't see how that is fair for an AM to outlast all of us, and walk away with practically full health because he was twinked. 

I really do hope that you are taking the level cap to 12 into consideration.  Because you're ruining pvp for not only non trials, but trial players themselves.