This always concerns me. I wish there was a way to balance it all out.

I hope we can convince a few more order to re-roll destruction here. 

Xfer your toons to PT and reroll destro here!

When RvR is dead there you can come here and play your destro alt!

With a community that has beens scrambling to become more balanced for months through community rerolls and activity this couldn't come at a more horrible time!

The talk from Ostermark major T4 guilds is sending all their main Order guilds to Vortex and all their main Destruction guilds to PT.  Mythic you must enforce some kind of manual balancing by revoking imablanced realm transfers from Ostermark.  Withtout this regulating measure the community will fall apart faster than the US economy after bank deregulation.  Nothing good shall come of unregulated mergers!  Lessons of the past and all that.

Please for the love of your game and all the people interested in playing do not make the same mistake twice you made in November of 2008.  We're only now recovering from the shock reckless transfers gave us and I don't think the community will be interested in weathering another population ajustment of 3-4 months.  Likely you'll just get more account deactivations as there were last time.

We definately dont need to become yet another Order Zerg server

As it stands now things are finally becoming quasi-balanced, and a mass Order transfer will RUIN our server, and our community as a whole

Consolidate the low pop servers rather than offering MORE transfers to Vortex, as this will result in a DEAD server

Vortex says NO. We have always been a close knit personal group.  These transfer do nothing postive for ANY of the servers involved. Pheonix Throne?.. order heavy, Ostermark?.. order heavy, Vortex?.. order heavy but teetering on balance.  We don't want them, we don't need them. Do NOT turn our fantastic server into another Volkmar.  I have been behind Mythic's methods up until now, but this is ridiculous.  If you have no way of ensuring an equal number of order and destro both transfer, then DON"T bother.  We are the last server you guys have to be proud of. We are the tail end of what RvR should have been from the beginning. We have survived 2 transfers, while we watched our paired server get Zerged and destroyed.

I am not asking, I am BEGGING, to protect this final gem in the rough of warhammer servers.

Please, as a high RR of a class many have abandoned, please, don't go through with this.  We can only rally so much, and reroll useful classes so much....please preserve our server.

What Renn said with every point (minus the being with Mythic to this point, I've questioned every decision you've made and continue to do so, but this is beside the point).

This is not a threat so do not take it as such, think of it more as an opertunity to right some wrongs and actually earn a customer back.

I had canceled my account shortly after 1.2 due largly in part to the massive class balances that were introduced (and others already present continuilly ignored) and after seeing the changes to come today I was going to reactivate and give you more of my money for a beta game (don't kid yourself here, this is exactly what we are paying to play). After seeing this server transfer annoucment however I have decided to wait and if by some fluke Vortex is not completly destroyed by this transfer I may yet reactivate. However as Renn pointed out it may be in your best interest to see to it that the transfers are somewhat balanced and you don't destroy Vortex as you allowed happen on Volkmar.

Anyways my 2 cents, not that it will infulence anything whatsoever.

I don't really play here, and I usually just browse server forums every once and a while, but this seems like a horrible idea. One side dominating in this game equals a death of the server. Mythic, look at what monolith was and now what it is. It used to be something like Med/High, then I see it low/low constantly, then you guys started giving bonuses to it. But how did it get that way? I'll answer. One side(Destruction) dominated the server. It was even admitted by Mythic that it was at the time their most imbalanced server.

I know a few people's opinions on some server forum probably don't matter, even more so if one of them doesn't even play on the server... but creating one side super-domination on a server usually means a death of the server. (MONOLITH)

Monolith balanced out, by people of both sides unsubscribing or moving elsewhere.

Just popped over here from the Ostermark and Phoenix Throne forums, where I usually lurk.

I know forums aren't necessarily indicative of a player base as a whole, but based on forum posts almost no one on any of the servers in question are happy about this.  Wanna lay odds as to whether the Devs will care?

/orc off

Thanks to a lot of Order folks abandoning their characters and rerolling to the underdog Destro side, our server is almost back in balance.  When I saw the AoE changes I said to myself, 'Yay! This will balance everything and make the game fun again!'

Then I saw Ostertag's plans to transfer most/all their order toons here.  Then I saw some of the most childish, immature, mean posts I've ever seen on the Vortex boards.  Unless half of these transfers or a ton of current order toons reroll destruction, things are going to be worse than right after the horrendous 1.2 patch.

Mythic, you don't have an easy choice ahead of you, and maybe it's too late to find another solution.  I just ask that you don't kill the Vortex community.

- Da Mebs

as you know this game has 2 sides order and destro. in order to maintain good competition those two sides need to be even....thats common sense. class balance is almost a moot point when you can't even balance the population. you have the numbers for both sides which means you know how many transfers each side can take in and still remain fairly even. if you can say "hey we're closing this server down" then you can say "hey we're closing this server down and you'll be moved to this server".

you have the option to balance the servers completly if you manually move people. the proof is already out there that just opening a server up for mass transfers will not result in a balanced population. change your methods before you run another server into the ground. 

From the looks of it, most on Ostermark are going to roll PT to stay with the RP flavor they like. You guys realllly dont have as much to worry about in terms of population walloping as they do. I honestly wouldnt be too worried.

Youre going to get people with alts on PT that dont want to give them up and people who are sick of being on an RP server. 

As for myself, im following my guild. In theory that could be Vortex, but i doubt it. 

It is not all doom and gloom yet... Order was saying the same thing about azazel and how all of order went to volkmar and how all of destro came here. Seeing as destro dominated before the transfer we (order) were terrified that your zergs would become even bigger. As you can see we were right about half of it, volkmar is a order zerg server, but vortex is still intact. Now our numbers are pretty waffle even. Destro says we have a little more order says you have a little more. While this will tilt the power in one sides favor I do not think it will turn into volkmar or iron rock or black crag.

I have not followed this issue... Like at all but who is to say that order is all coming here anyways? PT is a order zerg server so who is to say that they wont join their fellow bethren there instead of coming here where all the zones were pushed back all week long by destro. Also PT will be the last RP server and seeing that the people who choose RP servers choose them for a reason it is more likely that they will go there. Even if they don't care about it being a RP server or not people tend to join whichever server has thier side winning and since PT has order dominating everything it is more likely that all of destro will come here as well as the organized order who want a good fight... The majority of order/pugs on ostermark will go with there happy zerg friends to PT. Can some1 please give a link as to the thread or something that states all of order is coming because all I see is destro vortex commenting on the server merge and while no one wishes for this to ruin our server balance your opinions may just be a little bias xD.

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NO!  NO!  DONT GO F THIS SERVER UP.   Start some new server and screw that one up!

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One post is enough to get your point across.

Please, Mythic, I've been a paying customer since the Dark Age of Camelot beta ended, and opened for business. Do NOT let Ostermark reroll here. We are already outnumbered a good 1.5-2 to 1. On every front.

Saturday, Prime Time, Order decided to do a city siege. It started early, the battle was fairly balanced, however, after 3 hours or so, we were outnumbered by 2 to 1 at our warcamp. After an hour of that, we decided to try another zone, to prevent lock. We ran into another 2 to 1 fight with a different group of defenders...

I just logged off, and after checking at 7:30 p.m. EST on a Saturday night, there were 30 destruction level 40 players on.

If you let Ostermark reroll here, that number will be 0.

With no destruction players to fight against, order will be 0.

You will lose approximately 15$ x 1500 = 22,500$ a month.

I broke it down into numbers because I know that's what EA likes to see. Give them that number, and see what they say.

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Livewire wrote:

It is not all doom and gloom yet...

 

 

PT is a order zerg server so who is to say that they wont join their fellow bethren there instead of coming here where all the zones were pushed back all week long by destro.

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 Until you actually look at the guilds leaving Ostermark and going to PT (and therefore...not here).

 http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board/message?board.id=server_om&thread.id=909

 So far the majority of PT transferees are Destro. Not a peep about any Destro coming our way. The only good thing is that so far I see no Odor players coming here (yet).

 (EDIT#1) Also, regarding the second part. Does this really sound logical to you?  The way I see it, Odor guys from Ostermark will say to themselves: "Hmmm, PT is overwhelmed with our brethren, that means fewer keep caps and BFO's for us transferees, if any at all. OH WAIT! Vortex is still kinda even, (heck, according to this Livewire guy, Destro actually try for stuff...) we can get our caps in, collect RP easier etc etc etc".

(EDIT#2) When will my avatar on forums reflect my level? Heck I'm 20/20 now......

Please do not let this happen mythic I have already lost my old guild and friends. do to leaving volkmar because I could not stand the order zerg anymore.

please do not kill this server like you did Volkmar.

From what I've read and those I've spoken to in the past 2 days, most Destro from Ostermark will be coming to PT.

Ostermark Order already knows of the population imbalance, and 3 or 4 of the top Order guilds have already decided to go to Vortex to b/c of Order population and/or having high level Destro alts on PT.

No matter what PT will be stronger in time.  Server transfers are rough on everyone, but remember it's still very early in the WAR and the tide will turn for both Realms many times in the future.

Adam,

That is great to hear that you permit RP->Core transfers now. However please let me express my concern here about the other way around transfers, i.e. Core->RP.

I honestly believe that should never happen. It is a very scary thing to think that all these core players will come to a roleplaying server. There is a certain demographics behind roleplaying servers and core players do not fit in by definition.

This is the second time I am getting information about cross-type server transfers from Mythic (the frst one being another post by you if i remember correctly.)

Roleplaying servers should only be open to players who want to roleplay. We definately don't want to have players chatting randomly in region chats or non-RP guilds to show up in roleplaying servers.

Hope this feedback doesn't go unnoticed.

Thanks.